More Sugar: The new SOD album, Bigger Than the Devil, is the perfect follow-up to Speak English or Die. Will we have to wait another 14 years?

Billy Milano: No, we're going to be 7.

More Sugar: What made you decide to sign with Nuclear Blast?

Billy Milano: Why not?

Scott Ian: It was time for the Jews and the Germans to mend.

Billy Milano: Actually, they were the only record label that approached us as people. Everyone approached us as a product and that's not what we're about.

More Sugar: What was the writing process for the album?

Billy Milano: A little of this, a little of that. Then we added some more of this and a pinch of that.

Scott Ian: Actually, we just told Danny Lilker to write the fucking album, and call us when you're done. That's what we told him.

More Sugar: Did you come up with the riffs and he came up with the lyrics?

Billy Milano: Basically, we all wrote over a period of like, it all equated to about 3 weeks in writing, the whole record. Here and there, this and that. I wrote most of the lyrics. Scott and I wrote a lot of the lyrics. I wrote some music. They wrote all the music. And it was a big collaboration. I'm really excited about this record because on the first record, I had no real input on. I wrote 2 songs and I helped a little bit on lyrics. This album...

More Sugar: Who wrote the first album...You did, most of the riffs - I am looking at Scott

Scott Ian: Me and Danny

Billy Milano: Yeah.The Jews, Jews

More Sugar: Who wrote the lyrics to Free Dirty Needles?

Billy Milano: I did.

Scott Ian: My title though. No, Danny Liker's title, sorry. Because one day I was saying, I needed something to write about. And Danny goes, well, I have this idea, Free Dirty Needles, about giving out free needles. Wow, that's a great idea. And then one day me and Billy were talking and he goes, I need something to write about. And I go, well, we have this title idea, Free Dirty Needles. He goes, I'll write it. And that was it. Next day it was written. And he wrote the lyrics.

More Sugar: Explain to me the difference between the meanings of Speak English or Die, and We All Bleed Red.

Billy Milano: Okay, the meaning is this, Speak English or Die, if you can't figure out what it says, you're a fucking moron. I mean, even though we're a bilingual, multilingual world, our country’s basic language is English. We're the only people, Americans, white Anglo-Saxons, Jews, who only speak English. We're the ones that should be learning other languages. But English being the primary language, we felt it was just something about going into delis and not having people talk to you in your own language. Kind of a bum out, you know. And what's the other one?

Scott Ian: It's also just a big fuck in the ass for the whole idea of being politically correct.

Billy Milano: We were politically incorrect before they even knew what it was.

Scott Ian: There was no term, politically correct, in 1985. They didn't have that term yet. It didn't even exist.

Billy Milano: We invented it.

Scott Ian: But even at that point, we were fighting against that. And recently we read this review of us in Cleveland where the guy compares us to Lenny Bruce. And seriously, that's really where it's at with us. Because what we did in 1985, nobody in music ever touched upon the things we were touching upon.

Billy Milano: Now here we are in 1999 doing the same thing. What was the other question?

More Sugar: How is that compared to We All Bleed Red?

Billy Milano: Oh, it's the same thing. I mean, what we're speaking about is timely topics in a very satirical, dark, humoristic way.

Scott Ian: We all bleed red, but some bleed redder than others.

Billy Milano: Basically, what it really comes down to is everything that we portray isn't exactly what we believe. It's just a third person party view of a very sick world.

Scott Ian: It's called humor.

More Sugar: Any feedback from Iron Maiden about the cover?

Billy Milano: Yeah, fuck them. And fuck their fat manager, the English cunt Rod Smallwood.

More Sugar: They didn't like it.

Billy Milano: Who cares? They're English.

More Sugar: Did you hear from them?

Billy Milano: Yeah, of course we did. We busted their balls about it. They said, We want to see the album cover. So we said, Go buy it.

More Sugar: Good answer.

Billy Milano: I said I'd come to England and kick their ass. Of course, they didn't show up at the show because they were afraid.

More Sugar: Bigger than the Devil was recorded in your own studio, Big Blue Meanie.

Billy Milano: Dot com.

More Sugar: Tell me about your studio.

Billy Milano: Oh, it's beautiful. Right now, in the December issue of Mix Magazine, the biggest audio industry magazine in the world—my studio got the cover. We have a $3 million facility with multiple control rooms and live rooms. My office for my management company, Brand X Entertainment, is in there. It's by far better than anything in New York.

More Sugar: Where is the studio located?

Billy Milano: Jersey City. We bought the old Quantum Studio.

More Sugar: You also manage Agnostic Front, right?

Billy Milano: I manage Agnostic Front with Roger Moret from Agnostic Front and Mad Ball with Roger. I manage the US Bombs, I manage Skin Lab, and I do SOD with Scott starting January. Even though we've been doing it from the beginning.

More Sugar: So this is the last stop on the tour. You have anything special planned?

Billy Milano: Yeah, going home. I'm going to fuck my girlfriend up the ass.

More Sugar: I'll print that for her.

Billy Milano: I don't give a fuck.

Scott Ian: Such language.

Billy Milano: If you don't know yet, one day you will.

More Sugar: How's the tour been?

Billy Milano: It's great. Even though we're a band with a legacy, we're a new band. Think about how many new bands can have 600 people here on a Friday night in Poughkeepsie. Some shows were 150, some 1,400, and every one’s been great—except for Spartanburg, which sucked. Spartanburg just in general sucks.

More Sugar: Have you caught any fans wearing a Korn or Limp Bizkit shirts?

Billy Milano: No, because they knew better.

More Sugar: How did the first S.O.D album come about?

Billy Milano: Like this, boogity boogity boogity. Basically Scott and the guys were hanging out at a Psycho show at CBGB’s. Some guys were going to beat them up because he had long hair, and we wouldn’t let that happen in our club. That’s how we met. Later I said I’d play bass, he said he already had one, so I said, You need a singer? He said, I thought you were a bass player. I said, Yeah, but anyone can scream. And here I am screaming 14 years later.

More Sugar: And then you put together M.O.D. How was that whole experience?

Billy Milano: It has nothing to do with S.O.D. Next

More Sugar: What's the story with Megaforce Records? Did they start up again?

Billy Milano: No. They're only a catalog label now.

More Sugar: Okay. I did not get the single for Seasoning the Obese.

Billy Milano: Yeah, so you lose.

More Sugar: Is that really supposed to be King Diamond ordering Burger King?

Billy Milano: Yes, it's an imitation of him.

Scott Ian: And he loved it. We played with Mercyful Fate in Europe on a bunch of festivals, and he loved it.

More Sugar: What's the S.O.D. connection with New Paltz?

Billy Milano: My friend/p>

Scott Ian: Oh, we're doing that tonight.

More Sugar: There's a ton of those guys here tonight, by the way.

Scott Ian: We haven't done Pi Alpha Nu all tour. We said we’d only play it in Poughkeepsie.

Billy Milano: So now I'm busted. My friend Anthony, my best friend since 4th grade, is one of the main guys in Pi Alpha Nu’s fraternity.

Scott Ian: Is Anthony here?

Billy Milano: Yeah.

Scott Ian: He is?

Billy Milano: Yeah. They're all inside.

Scott Ian: Yes!

More Sugar: Which one is that? Is that the one with the blonde hair?

Billy Milano: No, Anthony's the guy with that haircut that looks like he fell out of a Twisted Sister video.

More Sugar: Because there's one guy from Pi Alpha Nu I saw here tonight that was there when I was. That was like six years ago.

Billy Milano: I hung out with those guys and partied every other weekend. Even though I wasn't in college, they made me a part of their fraternity. I was a social brother.

Scott Ian: Our friend Anthony's a lawyer to the stars now.

Billy Milano: Yeah.

Scott Ian: He represents such clients as Gamera.

More Sugar: Gamera?

Scott Ian: Yeah, he represented Gamera when Japan sued him for destroying Tokyo Tower, and Anthony proved it wasn’t Gamera.

Billy Milano: He wasn’t flying, he was soaring.

Scott Ian: Exactly.

More Sugar: Anybody heard from Dan Spitz?

Billy Milano: No, but he has.

Scott Ian: I haven't. I saw him on VH1.

Billy Milano: Fuck Danny Spitz.

More Sugar: He's on a Where Are They Now?

Scott Ian: Yeah, but I haven't heard from him though.

Billy Milano: He's got a lot of time on his hands. Next.

Scott Ian: (Scott is watching SNL) Oh wait, deep thoughts. Hold on, I gotta watch this. I love deep thoughts. Well, you go on.

More Sugar: And you guys are committing to S.O.D full time. It'll happen again?

Billy Milano: S.O.D is S.O.D. We're going to do S.O.D this year.

More Sugar: All right, but it'll happen again.

Billy Milano: Next year we're doing Europe, South America, and Australia. We're putting time into this band because the fans have waited too long. More importantly, me, Lilker, and Scott truly enjoy playing in this band because we're insane. The day it becomes a job, I ain't doing it. I have a job.